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I reffed one of their Friday evening KO's last season, brilliant idea. Both clubs fielded strong teams and it was well supported, more of the same please.

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: Predictions - Saturday 9th December
« on: December 10, 2017, 08:15:03 PM »
Unfortunately very few fixtures went ahead at the weekend but some good news for us locally here at Winlaton.

Two of our lads who left in the summer to try their luck at Blaydon both played on Saturday in Blaydonís 54-12 loss at Sale. Well Done David Kilpatrick starting at tighthead and Sean Pyle coming on from The bench.

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: Results 2/12/17
« on: December 04, 2017, 09:30:13 AM »
Mugsy it's good to hear Ryton are finally getting some players back and results have started to reflect that. It will be one massive banana skin if Winlaton get anywhere near you this weekend!

We are in a much better place than we were at the start of the season but a lot of our players are young lads with plenty of skill and heart and from what I've heard they are playing well and are always in games and competitive but we keep making crucial mistakes which are costing us dear. (When your at the bottom every mistake seems to be punished with a try)

I'm sure as the season goes on we will start to win some games and hopefully if we can get some experienced players on the pitch to complement the youth we will fair a bit better.

Saturday may be a bit early for us but I live in hope!

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Predictions 2nd December
« on: December 01, 2017, 09:19:11 PM »
Haha well said Mugsy

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Predictions 2nd December
« on: November 30, 2017, 07:14:41 PM »
I agree with Richie. I live not far from Consett and it will be gone by Saturday.

I did referee Consett 3's vs Prudhoe a few years back at the beginning of May and we had a good layer of snow during the game. 4 seasons in 1 day.

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: Sedgefield v Aycliffle
« on: November 26, 2017, 08:55:16 AM »
South west Durham is an aggressive place looking at the posts on here, us northerners are mere onlookers at the badger baiting that is ensuing from here.

Aycliffe have managed somehow to become the villains of this forum this season. Example should be taken from BBOB I think who ďhonouredĒ every fixture regardless of what team they could cobble together and never grumbled. When they had 2/3 good seasons and were doing well in DN2 they did so with dignity and humility as well.

Opinion is great and the craic on here is entertaining but remember not to burn your bridges and piss people off because if you slip and you find you have no friends you only have yourself to blame.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: results 11th
« on: November 15, 2017, 02:38:58 PM »
well said. maybe the guy who wrote that report slamming the ref (and his own players for missing kicks) should try officiating a game himself.

I know no refs will answer (understandably) but i would be interested to know if seeing a report like that impacts your outlook on a team?

We had aycliffe the other week and their players and supporters were blaming the ref before during and after the game...not the best way to get a ref on your side.

not just singling out redcar as well a lot of clubs (including mine) blame the ref when results dont go their way...rather than adapting and playing to the ref, if hes pinging for high tackles...takle lower.

To answer your question, I try to take any comments with a pinch of salt with regard to my decisions as a biase for your own side is understandable. Luckily Iíve never had a slating in a match report that I can recall but have seen the odd one that goes to far. There are rules regarding this so the author needs to take care.

I think itís important to remain neutral as a ref which is why I donít take part in the predictions, I never go into any game with a negative attitude to either team or a player for that matter. Life is to short.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: results 11th
« on: November 15, 2017, 11:10:43 AM »
Iím a level 7 referee and can see both sides, it is true we wonít see it all and can only give decisions on what we see. Iím sure thatís all anyone would expect, giving decisions on what we think happened or on the advice of players, coaches and spectators is recipe for disaster.

To be honest players at this level are generally very good and Iím my experience try to work with me, I reffed Westoe a few weeks ago and they were good, not had a Redcar game but knowing how they like to play it seems they did well and as has been said this division is very competitive.

Sometimes players and teams as a whole have to accept the negatives and the positives in equal measure as itís them who ultimately dictate the play and score line.

As for refsvas we are fit, consistent and in the right places to see the vital periods of play we wonít be far wrong.

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: 4-11-17 results and comments
« on: November 04, 2017, 06:52:17 PM »
Ashington v Winlaton was a great game, 5 tries each and end to end.

Other Senior Rugby / Re: Ask the Ref?!
« on: October 30, 2017, 06:12:55 PM »
Is that flat nose, no hair and pretty poor craic Neil?

(Before anyone gets on their high horse Iím good friends of both)

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: 28/10/17 scores and comments
« on: October 29, 2017, 10:23:34 AM »
These lads have joined properly to play club rugby locally. They have trained for 3 weeks played a game for the 2ís and against Acklam last week and luckily they are in positions where we are very thin.

They are very young, 18/19, new to the area but vitally are friends and have fitted in quickly with the current crop of players we have. We had 26 training Thursday and a few new lads who are friends of the new lads have joined as well so itís looking good.

Perversely even though we are going through a big dip in our fortunes with a change of coaches and losing a big cohort of our players to other local clubs, retirement or injury the playing squad are a good bunch and enjoy themselves, socialise and are dedicated to the club.

The players themselves have went out and found new players and it seems to be a big step forward for them all.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Real rugby - what is it.
« on: October 25, 2017, 06:45:35 PM »
On rucking Iím of the opinion that the modern way is the best, referees have a responsibility to penalise quickly the player on the wrong side but if you get players staying in their feet and allow some competition the modern ruck is quite an enjoyable part of the game. As a former player from both sides of the divide I can see it both ways. I genuinely donít get too excited if things get competitive at ruck time and love to try and let it develop (something I have been criticised for by match observers).

My attitude to the scrum is pretty simple and my prematch brief is simple also. For the front row itís their main job so Iím looking safety and competition, Iím not precious about body angles but anything that makes the scrum unstable and therefore unsafe will be penalised, otherwise itís game on. I donít award penalties to many Times at scrums but the vast majority are for flankers whose idea of a full arm bind is laughable, even after youíve told them to stay bound.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Impact of Weather on scores/ results
« on: October 25, 2017, 06:22:13 PM »
Weather may bad at times but the underfoot conditions in the main have improved rarely do you see pitches that are basically mud now.

Players are also much more keen and capable with the Ball in hand, go back 25 years and running and handling was the realm of the pretty boys and some back rowers. Now all players can contribute and consequently the scoring options have now opened up so even bad weather has a limited effect.

One other thing to add would be replacements, 3 now and clubs at level 7 are quite skilled at making use of them.

Merit Leagues / Re: BBOB looking up?
« on: October 22, 2017, 06:26:02 PM »
It was rather funny he ran 40 metres onto the pitch for scrum, then tackled the player less than a metre after the resulting scrum/penalty, having to run 40 metres back off again!

I did feel sorry for him 😂

Merit Leagues / BBOB looking up?
« on: October 21, 2017, 07:14:30 PM »
Just had a runout at BBOB today when they played Sedgefield 2ís.

They look Like they are on the up with a good mixed squad lending the opposition some players, great game and the usual top notch hospitality from our hosts.

Nice to see some good news in local rugby for a change

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