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Ladies Rugby / Re: World Rugby's Decision
« on: October 15, 2020, 08:02:25 AM »
Article here.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/14/rfu-clears-trans-women-to-play-womens-rugby-at-all-levels-in-england?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1602686294

No doubt Swing Low Sweet Chariot to be finally banned in a few weeks time as well.

Welcome to 2020!

Surely the most sensible approach would be for a trans person to continue playing against men? 

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Ladies Rugby / Re: World Rugby's Decision
« on: October 14, 2020, 05:48:17 PM »

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Club playing numbers 1970
« on: October 14, 2020, 08:19:16 AM »
By the early 80s I know Morpeth were fielding 6 and Novos were fielding seven teams. So maybe the boom and bust was even a little bit later than this!

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Ladies Rugby / Re: World Rugby's Decision
« on: October 12, 2020, 10:49:23 PM »
I'm not sure how many of you if any use Twitter? What a beautiful place it is.

I made the mistake in commenting on a tweet congratulating World Rugby on their decision to not allow transgender women to play the ladies version of the game.

My tweet said and I quote "A very sensible decision, anyone who was a former man with all the physical attributes would pose a real danger, whether intentional or not, to women players. Safety first always"

The response to that tweet has been pretty relentless, I didn't know people really cared about rugby so much. Considering I have less than 300 followers you would have thought I was Laurence Fox!!

I still think letting men (former men) play against women would be a delegation of duty as well.

I think I speak for all forum members when I ask this:

Link the tweet please!  :)

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Durham & Northumberland One / Wes Dixon RIP
« on: October 07, 2020, 07:58:35 AM »
https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/ponteland/news/the-passing-of-a-ponteland-rugby-club-legend-2575158.html

Totally shocked by the news that Wes Dixon, of Ponteland RFC, has passed away. A true rugby man.

Very sad news.

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National Leagues/North One East / National League Covid Update
« on: October 06, 2020, 07:27:51 AM »
https://www.ncarugby.com/national-1/nca-update-on-plans-for-2020-21-season/

Interesting to read they aim for a national cup if no league for the National League. At lower levels I would personally be happy for friendlies and a big focus on our ancient County cup competitions.

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As part of the NCA’s ongoing work regarding the resumption of competitive rugby, National League Chairman John Inverdale would like to update our clubs following recent media speculation.

Last month, the Rugby Football Union confirmed the National League season would not be able to begin until January 2021 at the earliest due to the increase in Covid-19 case numbers across the country which has led to additional Government restrictions.

With this in mind, discussions are continuing as to how the 2020/21 season could be structured if it is to resume in the New Year.

NCA Chairman John Inverdale said: “The game at all levels desperately needs the return of competitive rugby for players, spectators and commercial partners alike, but we are dependent on guidance from Government.

“Every club in the NCA can rest assured that all possible options are being considered whether play is able to begin in January or not. Those options include league rugby with promotion and relegation and also, as has been widely reported, there could be a National League cup competition and a format for that has yet to be finalised.

“The ever-changing Covid situation means other permutations may also need to be considered.

“The NCA exec meet on October 12th to consider all options by which time, further guidance from the Government may have been forthcoming following meetings with senior figures from the RFU in the last few days.”

We will continue to keep our clubs updated with all the 2020-21 season developments and we thank everyone for their patience and understanding.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU Redundancies?
« on: October 05, 2020, 08:30:14 AM »
I know a couple of people affected by this. Terribly sad. They were excellent at their jobs and I can speak from first hand experience that they made a huge difference in State schools.

No idea how fewer than a person per county will work, as the amount of work that used to be done by CRCs was huge. Clearly the roles will now be redefined. Most of their days will probably be spent on travelling by the looks of it?


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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Season Restart Poll
« on: October 04, 2020, 10:23:48 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54391167

Premiership clubs can pay for testing which means the games were cancelled after players testing positive. Clearly clubs below Level 2 won’t be able to afford this. Is rugby not coming back until a vaccine is found?

I’m realistic in my views on this but I am beginning to get worried about how long we could be waiting for a return to rugby. 800 cases at Northumbria, half the country in lockdown measures, winter around the corner. What a shambles. And a huge worry for our game.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Old Journal report on Consett
« on: September 30, 2020, 08:02:38 PM »
That's fantastic and hilarious in equal measure.

Where did you get that box of old Journals? I wouldn't mind having a look through them when they're free!

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Chat / Re: Covid 19
« on: September 29, 2020, 09:32:57 AM »
Only liable to pay £1 aren’t they?

And should be fine unless it’s criminal negligence. Not sure they can be blamed for a pandemic.

Regardless though it is worrying. I don’t know how many clubs will last another year of no regular income.

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Chat / Re: Covid 19
« on: September 27, 2020, 07:57:19 AM »
Quite an interesting (but depressing) read from the Guardian. I’m pretty confident all of our amateur clubs should be fine but I wouldn’t be surprised if some Championship and National League clubs fall by the wayside.

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From top to bottom, rugby union is now staring into the abyss
From the best-run Premiership club to the grassroots, all parts of the game are in peril but not all its ills can be pinned on Covid

There is nothing quite like a pandemic for exposing hard, uncomfortable truths. And, give or take stand-up comedians, nightclub owners and first year university students, few face a bleaker midwinter than sports that live or die by people entering their stadiums each weekend. The word “catastrophe” usually jars in the context of mere athletic pursuits but increasingly, in rugby, there is no ducking it.

It is almost impossible to exaggerate the depth of the abyss into which much of the game – professional and amateur – in Britain and Ireland is now staring. At every level it relies, in sickness or in health, on the top of the pyramid delivering for the benefit of all. So when the Rugby Football Union, until recently the wealthiest union in the world, says a government bailout is needed to prop up the whole edifice a chill shiver should run down the spine of everyone with an oval-shaped heart.


Sport left to sweat on rescue from a half-listening government
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Imagine for a moment that, in addition to the many millions of pounds already lost, the 2021 Six Nations has to be played behind closed doors or cancelled altogether. In some ways the immediate pain it would cause within the elite game is the least of it. Bill Sweeney, the RFU’s chief executive, says there will be a £138m reduction in revenue if no spectators are allowed back into Twickenham before next summer, with the English community game braced for an estimated £86m revenue hit.

To transfer those numbers off a spreadsheet and drop them into real life is to risk a sizeable panic attack. Maybe a few Premiership clubs would be able to soldier on, courtesy of their sugar daddy owners, but a good number are already tottering. The Championship, supposedly the second tier of the English game, already looks doomed, with funding potentially set to be cut from £640,000 per club to £40,000 next season. Below them, dozens of impoverished local clubs with no income will struggle to survive, endangering the long-term supply chain from grassroots to national teams. The fledgling women’s professional set-up, sevens, age-group representative rugby, academies, referees … any number of talented and enthusiastic people have had the rug pulled from under them – or soon will.

The Irish Rugby Football Union’s chief executive, Philip Browne, has already given a stark assessment to an Irish parliamentary committee, suggesting the “very existence of professional rugby” in his country is under threat if fans cannot return in sufficiently large numbers. He revealed the IRFU’s cash surplus of €28m in June was likely to be transformed into a debt of around €10m by next summer and had no hesitation in using the “c” word. “Irish rugby’s net losses in 2020 are catastrophic,” he said. “The rugby infrastructure built over 150 years is under threat.”

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 A packed Aviva Stadium watches Ireland take on Wales earlier this year. The IRFU says its net losses this year are ‘catastrophic’. Photograph: Brendan Moran/Sportsfile via Getty Images
Few in Wales and Scotland would argue differently and even the best-run professional club in England are feeling the intensifying heat. Exeter are essentially a conference and banqueting business with a rugby club attached and are currently losing at least £1m per month. Rob Baxter, their director of rugby, has spent enough time in board meetings to be genuinely alarmed. “It doesn’t take a genius to have concerns. I am a club director so I see the financial predictions, the expectations of what we need crowd-wise, what we need to be taking over the bar etc.

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“There is a reality that this cannot go on, if we genuinely as a country want sport and sporting venues to be able to continue and provide what they do for their communities. Sport is a huge part of this country’s culture that we can’t just let slip by without taking some action about it. Let’s hope there is a genuine concern taken by the government in how they aim to help us and how they also aim to get crowds back in as soon as they possibly can.”

Then again, should government bailouts be casually handed to organisations that have previously been awash with money and seemingly put little aside for a rainy day? Should certain administrators have allowed their dominoes to remain so tightly stacked or been so heavily reliant on a golden goose that has now ceased laying? In France this week the vice-chairman of World Rugby, Bernard Laporte, has been questioned by prosecutors investigating possible corruption. In Australia, Qantas has just withdrawn as main sponsor after 30 years, delivering another heavy financial blow to the sport down under. Rugby is in serious strife and not all its woes can be blamed on Covid-19.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Season Restart Poll
« on: September 25, 2020, 09:10:35 AM »
Some nice positivity from you PP.

I must admit, I do have a sneaky thought that we might get a few friendlies/county cup games played in March, April and May.

Fingers crossed.

I hope everybody’s club is coping and they’ll come though the other end!

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Chat / Re: Covid 19
« on: September 23, 2020, 08:27:03 PM »
Really good to read!

Just remember nearly all of our clubs have gone through Two World Wars and come through the other end. I’m sure we can do it again!

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