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Durham & Northumberland Three / Re: Fixtures 2019/20
« on: June 13, 2019, 12:08:43 AM »
Fully agree with the safety aspects at level 9.  If I have read Regulation 13 correctly though the highest a second XV can operate at is at level 8.  Is that better than pilot and candy league for Mowden?

Anyway I hope any application is rejected by Durham County.

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Durham & Northumberland Three / Re: Fixtures 2019/20
« on: June 11, 2019, 08:30:31 PM »
I suspect the Northern Competitions Committee are considering what to do about 3 more Lancashire clubs leaving the RFU leagues to join the breakaway ADM Lancashire league. I wouldn't have thought that this will affect D&N directly but it is probably concentrating NCC minds at the moment.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Coaching changes
« on: June 07, 2019, 07:05:13 PM »
Horden seem to be having a fair bit of activity.  New coaching team of current and past players to 'assist whoever will be Head Coach'.  Plus 3 former players returning and 3 of Houghton Colts signed.  Offset by about 4 players leaving for Seaham.

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Northumberland senior County
« on: May 07, 2019, 07:42:48 PM »
Yorkshire have literally 10 times as many inhabitants as County Durham.  Dunno the ratio of rugby players but it will still be significant.  And as Badger says the club's are better funded.

I suspect Gorilla could have worked out for himself.

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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: DN2 2019-20
« on: May 02, 2019, 06:26:05 PM »
Think top 3 guisbrough top with hartlepool and Sunderland fighting for 2nd bottom 3 think Seaton will struggle along with blyth and sedgefield

Reasonable prediction.  I laughed out loud at the username mind!

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU league changes
« on: May 01, 2019, 05:35:36 PM »
Tried looking through previous posts but not no joy, so who is going to be in DN1 next season?

Acklam
Barnard Castle
Consett
Gateshead
Horden and Peterlee
Hartlepool Rovers
Medicals
Northern
North Shields
Novocastrians
South Shields Westoe
Stockton
Whitley Bay Rockcliff
     
Plus one other.  Probably Middlesbrough.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Intermediate Cup
« on: April 22, 2019, 02:05:07 PM »
Sorry my bad.  Got my placings mixed up.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Intermediate Cup
« on: April 22, 2019, 12:54:32 PM »
They may well have but they finished twenty points behind Durham and 14 pts behind Northern and neither were ever really in the title race after Christmas so stand by my comment that over a season the top three were a level above the rest

32 points between 3rd and 4th in 2017/18 so you could argue there was less of a gap in 2018/19. 

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU league changes
« on: April 15, 2019, 07:33:41 AM »
Well we are in agreement about keeping 2nd XV teams out of ECC leagues.  However I am not so sure about your, and Renegades, proposals for 2nd XV leagues.

By and large the Candy and other junior leagues do a good job of balancing geography and playing level.  Mirroring the 1st XV league at 2nd team throws up all sorts of anomalies.  Blyth 2nds would be travelling to Whitby if this were adopted.  Would the RFU contribute?  City Saracens would be playing  Tynedale 2nds (if I read the proposal correctly) whereas they struggled against Tynedale 3rds in Candy League.  And I find the administration of junior leagues more helpful and flexible than for ECC leagues. 

Personally I wouldn't change.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU league changes
« on: April 13, 2019, 10:42:58 PM »
Been told 2nd teams definitely not in any DN leagues

Which in my opinion is a good thing and here I give my reasons

1. If players want to play league rugby they need to leave their club and cascade down the leagues to teams at lower levels as always been the case.
2. This is good for the players because either they find their level or improve and go back up to their original clubs
3. Its good for smaller clubs because you get players flowing down the pyramid from top to bottom in search of league rugby
4. You protect smaller clubs if you let second teams in for example mowden Blaydon Tynedale Billingham Alnwick Morpeth  where is the incentive for players to leave to find league rugby.

My Solution why not make strong second team league for level 6 and above Mowden Tynedale Blaydon Billingham Alnwick Morpeth Percy Park and it would be Durham next season play home and away full rest weeks in with friendlies

Sounds like a cut down Candy League. It won't include City though. While they have strong 1st XV there is a gulf down to their Saracens (2nds) who dropped out of the Candy League and often play 3rd teams.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: results 13/04
« on: April 13, 2019, 09:56:54 PM »
Got to say that Level Transfer is ridiculous. Some sides are completely immune to it purely because of their location.

What alternative do you suggest?

Should be Boro to transfer clearly on lowest total mileage.   I don't think it should be a Cumbria club as they aren't covered under the level transfer regs published at the start of the season.  But who knows .

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU league changes
« on: April 13, 2019, 01:56:32 PM »
Wouldn’t Guisborough qualify for automatic level transfer?

Guisborough will be relegated from Y1 to DN2

I thought the rule was that if you got level transferred out of DN1 to Y1 that you automatically came back across by default at the same level no matter the league position?

Nope.  If you survive relegation you come back across at the same level.  If you are relegated you come back at the next level down.  As has happened to Acklam.  Twice.

I think we should have a second referendum and vote for option Y but to include some of the higher team seconds to make up the numbers for the lower clubs.

Where will Mowdens seconds go next season now they are going in the leagues?

Really?  Source please?

Mowden park themselves told me they are putting their seconds in the leagues to achieve games every week, I believe they are changing their status to a club in a club!

Well we shall see how that works out.  Blaydon have expressed a similar interest in the past.  My understanding is that any 'new' club must start in the lowest league so DN3.  Where they will be much too strong and have teams cry off against them. With the added concerns of attracting more players from other Durham clubs when/if they are promoted I wonder if 'Mowden's' request will be accepted.  Personally I hope not.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU league changes
« on: April 13, 2019, 09:20:30 AM »
Having 2nd teams in the leagues would be disastrous smaller “Junior” clubs would have their squads depleted by “senior” clubs fielding two league sides in direct competition to them.

Rugby is already suffering with lack of competition and teams to play, that would only make things worse.

Fully agree.  And for that reason the majority of club representatives will reject any  such approach if it is made to Durham County.  Mr Hall is fully entitled to his personal opinion on the matter but I suspect his statement about Mowden 2nds joining the leagues is incorrect.

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU league changes
« on: April 12, 2019, 01:29:44 PM »
Wouldn’t Guisborough qualify for automatic level transfer?

Guisborough will be relegated from Y1 to DN2

I thought the rule was that if you got level transferred out of DN1 to Y1 that you automatically came back across by default at the same level no matter the league position?

Nope.  If you survive relegation you come back across at the same level.  If you are relegated you come back at the next level down.  As has happened to Acklam.  Twice.

I think we should have a second referendum and vote for option Y but to include some of the higher team seconds to make up the numbers for the lower clubs.

Where will Mowdens seconds go next season now they are going in the leagues?

Really?  Source please?

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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: RFU league changes
« on: April 12, 2019, 11:25:53 AM »
Wouldn’t Guisborough qualify for automatic level transfer?

Guisborough will be relegated from Y1 to DN2

I thought the rule was that if you got level transferred out of DN1 to Y1 that you automatically came back across by default at the same level no matter the league position?

Nope.  If you survive relegation you come back across at the same level.  If you are relegated you come back at the next level down.  As has happened to Acklam.  Twice.

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