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Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Rugby Trivia
« on: August 14, 2018, 04:04:18 PM »
It certainly is, bicko's put us out of our misery ... Looks like Simon Shaw couldn't resist a second trip to West View Road!
So as we suspected, this thread has been a wild goose chase as the honours list was incorrect.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Rugby Trivia
« on: August 10, 2018, 09:03:29 PM »
I think Shaw fits the bill, although he was up at Rovers not that long ago so it makes me think someone else? Although its perfectly conceivable that he really enjoyed it and is busting to get back to gods favourite town...
Again, wasn't at Toulon when they won the title. Left in 2013 when they were runners-up.
My suspicion is that there is no player who meets all that criteria, so I'm going to stop trying to guess!

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Rugby Trivia
« on: August 10, 2018, 08:59:03 PM »
Geoff Parling is my guess
Have you looked at the criteria Old Man? You can't win the French title if you've never played there, and, as good a player as he undoubtedly is, it would be a bit of a stretch to describe him as a 'Rugby legend'!

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Rugby Trivia
« on: August 10, 2018, 10:05:19 AM »
I'd take a punt and say based on those credentials it has to be Ashton (especially since he's recently returned to the UK signing for Sale)
Hasn't won the French Championship though. Toulon last won in 2014.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Rugby Trivia
« on: August 09, 2018, 07:43:23 PM »
Just trying to think of England players who went to play in France... Simon Shaw? Andrew Sheridan? David Strettle? Chris Ashton? Iain Balshaw? Wouldn't have a clue which of those have won the French title like.

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: In - Out
« on: August 02, 2018, 10:37:43 PM »
THE Houghton le Spring, eh?
Wow, respect!

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Durham City Tragedy
« on: July 31, 2018, 08:48:53 PM »
Thanks Renegade. Hopefully the truth will out.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Durham City Tragedy
« on: July 21, 2018, 10:31:56 AM »
That's bulls### I knew the two lads well in particular Tom baty having been on numerous drinking sessions after rugby with him and I'd bet my last pound that them two never took that or never took it knowingly (drinks spiked). Massive cover up if you ask me

The lads were found to have heroin in their systems, and the statement from Police was that they were thought to have 'been sold' it. You would think that there must be eyewitness or CCTV evidence of the transaction for such a claim to be made publicly, but personally I find it beyond credibility that good lads like these two would knowingly go anywhere near that disgusting filth, never mind willingly ingest an unknown substance in a seedy nightclub in a foreign country.
I'm with you, LineoutGeneral; they've surely been spiked - which brings me back to my earlier question. Has anyone been arrested and if not, why? They've had a long time to investigate and if they're going to make public pronouncements about drug dealing then they must have the information they need?
I feel dreadfully sorry for the families; they seem to be maintaining a dignified silence, but they deserve to know what happened, and long before now.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Durham City Tragedy
« on: July 19, 2018, 11:56:28 PM »
Very much doubt whether it will have been dealt with yet. No procedure is that the inquest is opened, body is released for burial and then the inquest is adjourned to a later date.
I'm assuming you meant to type: 'The procedure', rather than 'No procedure? I don't mean to pick fault, Teessidewire, just to understand.
I think the Coroner's verdict may help us all to understand what happened in this tragic case.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who has looked at the circumstances, as reported, and wondered exactly what happened, how and why.
I am also interested to know if the families have been fully briefed on the events of that evening, and whether there have been any arrests in connection with the incident.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Durham City Tragedy
« on: July 17, 2018, 06:54:52 PM »
Does anyone know what the Coroner's verdict was? I never heard or read this anywhere.

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: Change to DN2 teams next Season
« on: July 12, 2018, 01:13:27 PM »
Without any official communication on the case I can only comment based on what I've read here and heard elsewhere, but it sounds very heavy handed. If it was a genuine mistake then these incidents need to be handled more pragmatically. This kind of response isn't going to help the sport thrive. The impact on the club is grossly disproportionate to the apparent offense, both in terms of player moral and potential retention, and the administrative side of the club.

It must be quite scary to those who volunteer to help run their clubs that simple innocent mistakes can have such consequences.
I've quoted 'Exciled' (sic) Dragon's earlier post as it hits the nail on the head for me..

Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: Change to DN2 teams next Season
« on: July 10, 2018, 05:22:37 PM »
Anyone can make a mistake, BBW. I once wrote Ryton's team sheet for the ref out, and entered 'Wayne Edge' on the right wing.
Good job our Chairman noticed by chance, and pointed out to me just before I handed it in that his first name is Wade! I'd been calling him Wayne all season.
That's how easy it is to get docked points.
A team should be relegated because it was the poorest in the league, not because of human error on the part of the Alicks.
Where it's a case of deliberate cheating then that's another story and the culprits should be hammered, but nobody believes Richmond did that. Personally my sympathy is with the players, who did nothing wrong.

Other Senior Rugby / Re: Lancashire leading the way?
« on: July 05, 2018, 09:53:20 PM »
It's a tough one Muzz.
Kendal, Carlisle, Aspatria, Wigton, Penrith and Keswick play at levels above the rest - and given the sparsity of the County's population and catchment areas it's to their credit that they sustain that. Certainly it's not the fault of these clubs that the rest are based in small towns and villages and have no hope or expectation of playing beyond local fixtures. In fact some clubs, like Netherhall and Ambleside, don't even bother to play in the leagues.
So the bigger clubs must play North Lancs clubs; it's unavoidable.
I live part of the week in Cumbria and know one of the RDO's as I've been on courses with him in the past. Their manpower and resources are very limited; it looks like the funding from the RFU is about to dry up; as you say there is huge competition from RL - many of the junior clubs play both RL and RU.
Who will develop the game over there? Well, there are pockets of dedicated people doing their best, as there are everywhere. But nothing is going to change in the foreseeable future.

Durham & Northumberland One / Re: Pre season fixtures
« on: June 30, 2018, 12:01:36 PM »
No.  ;D

City in National 2???
Givowa! They were in Area League 4 North with Northern.
I know cos I was at Northern for a few seasons and we had some almighty derby battles with them.
The dizzy heights of National 1 & 2 were the domain of Newcastle Gosforth and West Hartlepool, who were like a pair of yo-yos between the 2 leagues.
In 91/92 West were promoted to Nat 1. They were relegated the following season whilst Gos passed them on the way up.
Gos were relegated after one season, and passed West on their way back up again.
West managed to stay up (although they did benefit from some restructuring which cancelled any relegation one season) until 96/97.
I know cos I was in the promoted and relegated Gos sides. The gulf at the time was enormous - we went from dominating a list of clubs like Blackheath, Bedford, Sale, Richmond, Nottingham etc, where our defensive systems under Steve Gustard were rarely penetrated, to shipping points regularly against the likes of Leicester, Bath and Wasps.
Both local clubs had some great players of the amateur era (I'm not pretending I was one of them - I wasn't!) but the aforementioned gulf in class made the transition virtually impossible.

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