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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by the mound on Today at 09:46:48 AM »
The message on the original post is part of the "early notification" sent out by the League Secretary to all the Nominated Club Contacts of D/N 2 clubs for dissemination to players and members. The message also pointed out that it is expected that boot cleaning equipment will be available pre match.
    The issue of "players having to buy new kit" is, in my view, a red herring. Clubs provide most kit and clean it, players provide boots of which any legally studded boot is fine for AGP use.  Blades damage the fibres of the AGP and again, in my view, are unsuitable for rugby on any type of pitch.       Studs help keep the fibres of the AGP fluffed up, trainers and flat soles shoes pack it down.
    Like them or not, AGP's seem to be the future.  Kids, the future of our game, seem to love them.  Let's embrace the future!
   
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Ladies Rugby / Re: Women and Girls Rugby Conference
« Last post by Sallyje on Today at 08:06:04 AM »
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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by Mugsy on June 20, 2018, 11:13:27 PM »
I don't like playing on them, much prefer a 'proper pitch'
I understand you saying that, but I was at a dinner recently at which Deano was the guest speaker and he was asked about 'Astroturf' pitches (that was the term being used on the night). He said when new players arrive at KP they always express doubt about the pitch, saying they prefer grass - but after a couple of months they fall in line with everyone else in preferring it. When given the choice as a group of training on grass or plastic they always want to be on the latter.
I think it's one of those things that you just need to get used to, to appreciate. It's best not to consider the merits of artificial pitches versus grass at this time of year, when everything is warm and green and pleasant. We need to remind ourselves of the misery of the rock-hard frozen surfaces and mudbaths of January/February.
Every season the problems caused by weather cancellations are discussed at length on this forum; it's a perennial problem for Rugby, especially in the North. And those mud-wrestles that do go ahead on weather-affected surfaces are rarely thrilling spectacles for either the players or spectators - whereas a fast, open game is almost guaranteed on plastic.
I'm not saying AGPs are perfect, but the advantages they offer are undeniable.
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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by flish on June 20, 2018, 12:49:08 PM »
This is the same at Kingston park, however remember that moulded studs are not the same as blades, so basically if you are wearing firm ground rugby boots you should be ok.

I don't know explicitly why blades are no good (flat shoes crush the pile which doesn't help I believe) but my best guess is a tendency to sharpen and damage it?  Certainly from a refs boot inspection point of few blades give me more concern than anything else.
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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by Lprogers25 on June 20, 2018, 11:19:15 AM »
Who is responsible for managing this?

What will be the outcome if players do not have the 'correct footwear'?

Lets remember, its L8 rugby, we cant expect guys who play social rugby to purchase new boots for just one game of the season, can we??

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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by DBaxter on June 20, 2018, 08:54:28 AM »
I don't like playing on them, much prefer a 'proper pitch'
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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by Mugsy on June 19, 2018, 11:19:43 PM »
Just out of curiosity why can't you wear trainers or blades on them surely studs cause more damage than both other things mentioned as long as trainers and blades are clean I can't see a problem
I agree - and that leads me to suspect it's about litigation. The manufacturers and installers don't want people claiming injury compensation because they had no purchase on the surface and sprained/ broke an ankle or whatever.
However, for me there's a more serious aspect of playing on AGPs which escapes mention. You often see players with the little black plastic beads stuck all over their faces - I can't help wondering about how much of that stuff is ending up in their lungs and intestines. I can see that becoming a serious medical issue in future.
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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by Mugsy on June 19, 2018, 10:57:04 PM »
Bloody rfu... what they playing at??  They seem to be alienating grass roots of the game more and more
Is it not the plastic roots they're alienating Badge?
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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by Badgerbear77 on June 19, 2018, 07:30:08 PM »
Bloody rfu... what they playing at??  They seem to be alienating grass roots of the game more and more
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Durham & Northumberland Two / Re: AGP
« Last post by No. 6 to Middlegate on June 19, 2018, 06:48:04 PM »
To be fair Billingham keepna fair few spares in the lock.up and they are good at notifying players well in advance of tje rules of AGP use. The RFU need to be funding more of these pitches and make the game more accessible... sunderland gateshead and probably moving up northumberland and also west durham like consett... games happening all weekend and less cancellations.... its the future!!

Not the future any more according to this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2018/06/17/rfu-halt-50m-plan-artificial-grass-pitches/ . You have to register to see the full article but the gist is immediately visible
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